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Mon, Aug. 7th, 2006, 02:59 pm
On the triangle of ethics

Asked the student: "Wise man, how do I know whether or not my behaviour is ethical?"

Answered the teacher: "One's behaviour is ethical when it adheres to the Triangle of Ethics."

Queried the student: "I don't understand. What is this triangle?"

Answered the teacher: "Look at this picture. It shows the Cycle of the Universe. The upper right triangle, with the white background, is the Triangle of Ethics."

Insisted the student: "How does this help me in the search for ethics?"

Retorted the teacher: "Tell me. When you study the white triangle, what do you see?"

Answered the student: "I see a triangle with half a circle, with the steps Sacrifice, Life, Evolution, Sentient Beings, History, Experience, and Reflection. The first and last step overlap the black triangle as well."

Asked the teacher: "Some of those steps are marked with an arrow. They are transitions. Others are marked with a big dot. Those are the milestones. Now have a look at the milestones only: Life, Sentient Beings, and Experience. What do these words mean?"

Summarised the student: "We discussed life in our previous classes. Life is energy. Something that is alive is formed out of energy. Science tells us that matter equals energy. Therefore all forms of matter must be alive. If it isn't alive, it can't be matter. But matter isn't necessary. Pure energy is alive too."

The teacher agreed and asked: "And what about sentient beings?"

Said the student: "I remember one of our classes, in which I asked why us humans exist. And you said, that the gods might have a purpose for our existence. So maybe we are able to do something that they can't. That only works when the gods themselves are sentient. And we ourselves most certainly are sentient. Maybe the gods are sentient in a different way than us. Sentience at least has advantages from an evolutionary point of view."

Said the teacher: "That's a good start. Perhaps you'll be able to fill in more of the concept after telling me about Experience."

Answered the student: "That's an easy one. We believe that our purpose in life is to gather as much experiences as possible, by living life to its fullest, including hardship and happiness."

Asked the teacher: "Does the concept of Sentience make more sense now?"

Exclaimed the student: "Ah, yes! Without senses, there would be no experience. What good then does it do, to reincarnate as a morter brick? Bricks don't have senses. Is it possible at all to reincarnate as a brick? With them being man-made and all?"

Retorted the teacher: "The matter that forms the brick, does it not equal energy as well? Does that not make it alive, like all the other forms? The brick is a separately identifiable object. Does that not make it a being? Granted, a brick might not interact much when compared to humans, but it does carry the weight of a house. Who are we to say, that the experience of carrying a house, is irrelevant? The titan known as Atlas got to carry the planet, and the tortoises known as Akapura and Bedawang Nala carry the world on its back. I'd say, knowing how to carry a house is a good start."

Asked the student: "So now we have life, sense and experience. How is that going to help me define ethics?"

Explained the teacher: "How are we going to experience, when we aren't alive? Ethic: protect life. Your own and that of others."

Objected the student: "But we must eat... in order for us to stay alive, we must kill plants, and maybe animals."

Answered the teacher: "Such is their purpose. They too are part of evolution. But we must be careful not to kill too many plants, and not to kill too many animals, otherwise we won't have anything to eat next year. Ethic: if you must kill, make sure the source can replenish."

Added the student: "Then we also have to consider the other beings that eat what we eat, and those who eat them respectively."

Said the teacher: "Wise words. You seem to be grasping the concept. Now how about communities, where we live and work with others?"

Answered the student: "My goal might be to experience loneliness, in which case I can reject everyone and behave like an outcast. But my goal might also be to experience family life, in which case I need to behave as part of the family."

Added the teacher: "With all the necessary ethics attached to it: to honour and respect, to follow, listen and help, to protect and lead. All of them, depending on one's position in the community, and in good balance with the community."

Said the student: "I see, wise man. How do I recognise wether or not I'm behaving in good balance?"

Answered the teacher: "Balance is achieved when things are going smoothly."

With that, the teacher left the student to ponder.

Wed, Sep. 20th, 2006 01:26 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

PLEASE TO BE USING RETURN KEY.

HARD-ONS FOR TEXTBLOCKS DO ANGER THE GOD OF PARAGRAPHS.

JUST LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED TO ANNE RICE.

Wed, Sep. 20th, 2006 08:17 am (UTC)
[info]xentor: Return key

Done

Fri, Oct. 27th, 2006 02:11 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

You know....I had a hard time with this lesson...I'm really going to have to think on it...but I did want to comment on the last response by the teacher:

"Balance is achieved when things are going smoothly"

It seems so simple...but it really was a wake up call for me. If things are going wrong, then something is not right...we need to look inward and find out what is out of balance.

Thank you for this lesson.

I'd really like to think some more on the rest of the lesson and discuss...if that's alright.

Fri, Oct. 27th, 2006 08:22 pm (UTC)
[info]xentor: Re: hard time with this lesson

Thank you for your comments!

If there's any part of this dialogue that needs clarification, please feel free to ask.

Fri, Oct. 27th, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: hard time with this lesson

I have a question....I understand the whole leading, following and teaching thing depending on your position in the community.

What I don't understand is how you know exactly what your position is. I mean...if a person is to grow spiritually, they need to be able to ask the tough questions, challenge what seems wrong. Sometimes when a person does that they step outside what their position is in the community.

So...how does one grow without being "a problem"?

Sat, Oct. 28th, 2006 12:40 pm (UTC)
[info]xentor: Re: how does one grow without being "a problem"?

Good question.

It seems that the human life cycle already provides an answer: from the moment we're born up to puberty, we're dependant and in a learning role. During puberty we're in a testing, challenging role, but still dependant. Afterwards some of us remain challengers while others go on to become teachers, but we become less and less dependant untill we can provide for ourselves.

Our various communities play a large role too:

During the first stage of life, our growth isn't necessarily connected to problems. We simply sit there and take in what happens around us, or we run around and learn how to interact and use our bodies simultaneously. Sometimes we make mistakes and break things, and are corrected.

This corrective behaviour by our teachers is what keeps us from stepping over the boundaries of acceptable behaviour. They have to set their limits, have to say, "This far, and no further".

Some of us choose to continue creating problems, sometimes in order to grow themselves, but usually in an attempt to either force others to grow, or to create chaos. In most cases, their community will react by admonition. This can range from slight to severe. Unless one is bent on creating problems without caring about oneself, statistics show that one or two admonishings suffice to have the problem maker fall in with the desired behaviour pattern. The rest tends to wind up banned or jailed.

Sun, Oct. 29th, 2006 02:37 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: how does one grow without being "a problem"?

Interesting. So the person that challenges really needs to understand why they are challenging. Is it to create chaos? Or is it truly to force others to grow...or to teach others within the community about things they may not have known?

The battle must be chosen wisely.

It would seem then, that a lot of it depends on the teacher as well, don't you think? Because if the teacher has decided that they have no more to learn...then they cannot learn from the student.

Sun, Oct. 29th, 2006 04:02 pm (UTC)
[info]xentor: Re: how does one grow without being "a problem"?

Wouldn't it be more likely that in order to achieve the best result, the challenger shouldn't realise what they're doing at all, untill their part is played? Of course there will be those who challenge on purpose, who will know what they're doing, but to my experience they differ from the general puberescent population.

The teachers do play a big role too, yes. They might not even know they're teachers, as their role might be forced upon them by the community of which they are part. In one way I am your teacher, in another you are mine, and in yet another both of us are teachers to numerous anonymous readers. Once the teacher decides they've had enough, the student should move on. Thus they continue to progress at their own pace, untill the student decides they had enough.

Obviously that last behaviour requires a student who is responsible enough to be willing to progress, and might not apply to the very young, or those who simply don't care.

Sun, Oct. 29th, 2006 08:25 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: how does one grow without being "a problem"?

Thank you. That makes complete sense.

I mean it.